Fundamental Flaws: Seven Things Independent Fundamental Baptists Get Wrong (And How to Fix Them)

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I guess you know more than the translators!

Rom and Jn make it clear that "the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who.. Being "justified" we have been saved through this wrath through Him Eph The tribulation is not God's wrath. Christ promised His church in Philadelphia that He would keep them from the hour of temptation, and the church is absent during the tribulation Rev , chaps Actually, the church at Philadelphia no longer exists so it is already "absent. Christ loved His church, gave Himself for it Eph and a post-trib rapture is inconsistent with the love that Christ has for His Church 2 Tim , 1 Thes.

John These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. Act Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Rom And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; Rom Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer; 2Co Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God. Rev I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Rev I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, but thou art rich and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Rev Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

Like the word "trinity" or "Deity," while this English word "rapture" is not specifically found in the Bible, it's doctrinal truths are still there. How is that a problem for post-trib? We believe in the rapture. They had none. I later became seriously ill, and unable to work for months at a time; having to repeatedly apply for one deferment after another, until the interest rate skyrocketed to an unpayable degree.

And how do you know that the King James Bible translators were inspired? I have been going to a IFB for 4 years. Not regularly the past 2 years. Last Sunday I noticed that I got snobbed by the other members. If you wanted to be considered a member, you HAD to be baptized there. I smoke cigarettes.

I wear nice, ladylike pant suits. Last week I was made a spectical in front of the congregation. Those people are not living the type of life God wants them to live. They are not being the role model GOD wants them to be for their children! I had not been to church in 4 months because of my work schedule. Ugh…Its the only church around that actually picks the kids up for church. I usually do have to work on Sunday, and I want my son to grow up in a healthy Christian environment.

Go to a pentecostal or born again church. I have been to a lot of churches and pentecostal are the best.. Jesus already accept us and loved us unconditionally. Lets just stop sinning. I grew up in a IFB Church. All activities revolved around the church. We had to read the KJV of the Bible only. Everything listed here.

Lets just say this upbringing has screwed me up beyond belief. I have had the hardest time having a relationship with God because of the dysfunc;tonal teachings I received growing up. It very much reminded me of the evanglism that I grew up with, but not a church. It was as if I was hit on the head.

This was me. I knew something was wrong with the church I grew up in. I still have family in this church and it is impossible to have a normal conversation with any of them because every conversation revolves around the church. I just thought it was annoying. Now I realize that it is a cult and I recognize the behavior, and all because my friend has gotten involved in a cult like group, which many refer to as Scientology Light. Finding this information has been an enlightening experience as I now feel that I am free to have a relationship with God, and not be fearful of him.

I am angry that I stayed married for so long for fear of God sending me to hell. Ohhh the list could go on…so happy that I now know and can let my past go and move on with my life, without shame or guilt. Yes, they have done the same thing to me. I have constant doubts that God actually cares about ME, personally, and my family. Suffer for God is the best everyday. But i went to a born again church and definitely God is not like that. For me they are interpreting the scriptures the other way and those are probably tactics of the demon.

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Just continue serving God go to a born again church. You will find happiness friends and a true family there. I am kinda dating man that is a Baptist. We are just friends and have lunch together about once a week. He is friendly, polite and nice looking but I have my concerns.

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He told me that he attends a independent Baptist Church and stressed the importance of the small i in the name. I am Presbyterian and we had a discussion on Christian doctrine. He showed me a chart that the Presbyterian church came from the Roman Catholic Church. He said that my bible was corrupt and that I should be reading from a KJV bible.

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He told me that I was not baptized and the his iFB church has the God given authority to baptize. We then talked about Calvinism and he said it was heresy. I found him to be very ignorant on John Calvin and the Protestant Reformation. We can talk about anything except Christian doctrine. I just listen to him talk about his church. I would say his iFB doctrine is simply strange. I told my parents about him and they think it would be wise for me to stop seeing him. There were no doctrinal differences except who was the Head of the Church ie pope vs. So, as history shows, the Baptists themselves came originally from Rome, and are themselves Protestants.

My wife and I went to an IFB church for 5 years, until the Lord showed us why we were feeling so unhappy doing church. Many of the congregation got in touch with us, as they felt the same as we did. Once again, thank you.

1. There are a few differing opinions on the origin of the Baptist church.

It makes no sense man. English Standard Version Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated by the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory. Tresler died of a drug overdose on March 17, just weeks after this interview. You treat it as a thing to be manipulated, not to be taken as it is. Instead of spending so much time cutting down the brethren or non-brethren-whatever you think they may be….

May God bless this ministry He has chosen you to do. This lack of ability makes me a very poor blogger as it leaves people confused about what I attempt to express. With this in mind, I need to try to better explain what I wrote yesterday. In order to initiate this action, the MOG needs to over-ride or disassociate himself from a warning God makes quite clear in Proverbs whereas He states that there are six things that He hates, yet seven that is an abomination to Him, the way this is written, means that the seventh item listed is the one that is especially important and one should never, under any circumstance, involve themselves with, which is that of spreading discord amongst the brethren this is the seventh thing listed amongst the other six things that God hates , so spreading discord amongst the brethren is actually nothing less that a horrible abomination to God.

If he feels that way, not only is he terribly confused but he is bound to be causing a great deal of his good works if not all to be burned up at the bema seat judgment, therefore not having anything more than one crown being the crown of salvation, to throw to the feet of Jesus.

All his good works will be burned up because of the many abominable acts that he commits, not to mention his wrong teaching which misleads people in various aspects of life. This is so far off, I cannot hardly believe that he honestly believes this. Being so terribly hard of hearing that I am, the only way I would know these things about the MOG is that I used to edit his full talks but now all I edit are the beginning and ending plus adjust the volume, to make them all somewhat uniform before placing them on the Internet.